On the Road to a Divorce?

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The hypocrits were screaming how Americans were so classless, hung up on sex etc when the Clinton scandel broke and yet as any intellignet person knows people are the same throughout the world.



Perhaps the difference is that the French will let it go ... whereas Americans feel they have the right to know every detail of a public person's life.
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The hypocrits were screaming how Americans were so classless, hung up on sex etc when the Clinton scandel broke and yet as any intellignet person knows people are the same throughout the world.



QUOTE (Stacy @ Oct 21 2007, 06:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Dutronc fan @ Oct 21 2007, 11:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

i think French people are being hypocritical if they say they are not interested, "this is not like the US" etc. This was the top story on a day of major strikes in France. Even "serious" newspapers like Liberation and Le Monde devoted coverage to it, and Elle magazine has come out with an exclusive interview with Cecilia. There's obviously a market for this coverage, someone's buying it.


No, I don't think I implied in my post that there was a lack of interest. When they say "This is not the US" it's referring to the fact that they aren't going to judge his public actions by his personal life à la the American public and Bill Clinton, for example. They may have plenty of issues with Sarkozy as president, but it's not because of a divorce or a mistress.

There have been comments of the nature of "must be nice to be the president!" regarding the speed of his divorce, if in fact it just happened (normally the process takes several months), or if indeed it was undertaken some time ago, that it was deceptive to continue the whole charade for the public eye and would support some people's criticism that he's a Hollywood president, too present in the media, doing too much that is staged or just for show.

Some people say the divorce received more press than the strike. And - perhaps - Sarko timed them to coincide.

But then, people are more used to strikes in France than Presidential divorces.

THIS IS-in the right place. This is a perfect example of you!
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(Al, do me a favor-IGNORE my posts)


Come on Mimi, you really can't be serious. First of all this posting is in the wrong thread and more important the post you objected to my commentary was in fact answering my post. wink.gif
L'AMOUR has little to do with L'État-by Elaine Sciolino in today's Ny Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/21/weekinre...amp;oref=slogin




(Al, do me a favor-IGNORE my posts)
QUOTE(Dutronc fan @ Oct 21 2007, 11:48 AM) *

i think French people are being hypocritical if they say they are not interested, "this is not like the US" etc. This was the top story on a day of major strikes in France. Even "serious" newspapers like Liberation and Le Monde devoted coverage to it, and Elle magazine has come out with an exclusive interview with Cecilia. There's obviously a market for this coverage, someone's buying it.


No, I don't think I implied in my post that there was a lack of interest. When they say "This is not the US" it's referring to the fact that they aren't going to judge his public actions by his personal life à la the American public and Bill Clinton, for example. They may have plenty of issues with Sarkozy as president, but it's not because of a divorce or a mistress.

There have been comments of the nature of "must be nice to be the president!" regarding the speed of his divorce, if in fact it just happened (normally the process takes several months), or if indeed it was undertaken some time ago, that it was deceptive to continue the whole charade for the public eye and would support some people's criticism that he's a Hollywood president, too present in the media, doing too much that is staged or just for show.
i think French people are being hypocritical if they say they are not interested, "this is not like the US" etc. This was the top story on a day of major strikes in France. Even "serious" newspapers like Liberation and Le Monde devoted coverage to it, and Elle magazine has come out with an exclusive interview with Cecilia. There's obviously a market for this coverage, someone's buying it.

But as to the question will it affect their opinion of Sarkozy, I wonder. I don't think they disapprove of the divorce, it happens to everyone, and i think they do understand it as a personal matter, that's not the problem, plus Sarko always has the convenient example of Segolene and Hollande to point to if the Socialists try to make political capital out of it. But maybe the way Sarko tried to emphasize his family in the past, the intentional comparison to the Kennedys, the very prominent and forced displays of affection between him and Cecilia at his inauguration, etc. may haunt him now. It all looks pretty fake and deceptive now if they're divorcing just a few months later, and if you're a voter, you have to wonder what else Sarko does might be just for show. So i don't think there'll be a moralistic backlash, but rather more one of credibility since there was such a PR effort put into showing a big, happy glamorous family at the start of his term.
Other articles I read say that the minister of Justice is his mistress and it was one reason Cecile left.
QUOTE(Karen @ Oct 16 2007, 05:18 PM) *
If the couple splits, will it impacts Sarko's ability to be "Presidential?"


Well, during his campaign he did say "Je suis le candidat de la rupture..." guess he's just living up to his promise! wink.gif
Today's Ny Times says the papers have been signed and on the VIEW yesterday(a TV Program)
Julit Binoche was sked if the French People cared and she answered, Yes they do!
More on the strike and Cecile:

http://tinyurl.com/2jnsva
QUOTE(Karen @ Oct 17 2007, 09:49 PM) *
Stacy: What do they think of Ms. Hillary? It is not the US!


Well, I don't get the feeling that anyone feels very strongly either way, but at the moment she's the most familiar candidate to them, and of course they liked Bill very much which seems to translate somewhat to approval by association.

I think they're more concerned with their own leader at the moment.
QUOTE(Stacy @ Oct 17 2007, 08:43 PM) *

The reaction from my acquaintances is that <insert French shrug here>their personal lives are not really anybody's business and that it's separate from their public roles.

Or, as one of them put it, "This is not the US!" tongue.gif



Stacy: What do they think of Ms. Hillary? It is not the US!
The reaction from my acquaintances is that <insert French shrug here>their personal lives are not really anybody's business and that it's separate from their public roles.

Or, as one of them put it, "This is not the US!" tongue.gif
There's a piece in today's Ny Times. I think they see it coming and will take it in stride.
On the Road to a Divorce?

Hot off the wire .... How do you think the French would or will react>




http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/10/16...kozy/index.html

If the couple splits, will it impacts Sarko's ability to be "Presidential?"